3 Responses to “Will the “King of the South” Be an Islamic Alliance?”

  1. Alex says:

    That’s why it is dangerous to allow our love of the truth to grow cold, as many did in the late 80s and into the 90s. Apathy leads to opening one’s self up to manipulation. Some are cold to this day, and Jesus had a fair warning about that as well:

    John, I want to urge you and your readers to be careful with statements like “our love of THE TRUTH.” One major flaw in that is the assumption that we have received THE TRUTH … ENTIRELY … already. This simply isn’t true, because as you well know because you also believe it is wrong to eat out on the Sabbath — a massive and clear flaw in the discernment of the leadership of MOST of the COG groups today — the Church certainly has not had the ENTIRETY of the TRUTH in its history all at once.

    The question is, with such a fundamental flaw in discernment in blatantly breaking the fourth commandment with these men where they have put the traditions of men above the Law of God, what else might they be missing? What else might they not have understood correctly for DECADES?

    We have to have a LOVE for GOD’S WORD, which is the source of all TRUTH, and we must be studying it daily as commanded in Deuteronomy 17:19. In fact, we, as future kings and priests in the Kingdom should also be obeying verse 18, to literally write out our own copy of the Law (the first 5 books of the Bible, defined in Joshua 1:8).

    I hope this post wasn’t taken as jumping all over YOU — it is more meant to jump all over the idea that we ALREADY have all biblical understanding because we’ve been taught “the truth” exclusively by HWA and the men he trained. It is a false basis to build our salvation on, and an extremely dangerous one at that. I hope everyone reading this will stand up for what God has inspired to be written in His Word instead of elevating what MEN (such as HWA or any other “minister” alive today) have said to the status of scripture.

  2. @Alex: I agree that no man knows the entire truth. As I’ve said before, anyone who claims to know all the truth is claiming a prerogative that belongs to God, for only He knows all the truth from beginning to ending. However, the truth is for us to discover.

    However, the truth we do know and have proven to ourselves needs to be clung to. After all, it is still “the truth” even if it is not all of it.

    2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

    11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.”
    ~ Rev 2:2, 11

    Even the church at Philadelphia did not have complete knowledge according to this section, for they were told to hold onto “which thou hast”, not “all the truth”! In both the above verses, the church at that location is told to hang onto whatever they already have that is true. All except Philadelphia are given specific instructions to jettison some things that are not true, but that doesn’t mean Philadelphia had nowhere to grow in knowledge!

    However, I believe there to be biblical precedent for using the expression “the truth”.

    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”
    ~ 2Th 2:10

    Here, it is called “the truth”, as it is elsewhere. However, I particularly like this one because it points to the reality that what God values is our love of the truth. He will not expect us to know what has not been revealed to us, but if we come upon the truth and not embrace it, then we will have problems, sooner or later.

    People do tend to misuse one verse, however:

    13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”
    ~ Jn 16:13

    It says God’s Spirit will lead one into all truth, but it doesn’t say it will be overnight! It doesn’t say there will never be more to learn, and it certainly never implies that anyone anywhere except God Himself could ever have perfect knowledge.

    Those who claim to have all of the truth right now eventually show that they do not, but they always show the Scripture is true:

    8 …Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.”
    ~ 1Co 8:8b

    I’ve seen people, even lay members, who will become arrogant because of their knowledge. Arrogance crowds out love, and love (as the last verse shows) pushes out arrogance. Love requires humility. However, the arrogant don’t ask for time off work; they demand it. When a teacher asks why a student needs to leave for over a week, they rant and rave. What they need to do is calm down and heed warnings in the Scriptures.

    16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    17 A proud look…”
    ~ Pr 6:16-17a

    What happens to those who practice abominations?

    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
    ~ Rev 21:8

    • Alex says:

      John, I really like what you wrote, and you are right. Everything we understand must be in the context of proven scripture, and we must also be on guard against things we’ve “proven” that are a twisting of scripture (such as how many people have “proven” that eating out on the Sabbath is OK, for example).
      One final thing I would caution is the use of the term “lay member.” This term (laity) is literally part of the word NicoLAITanism, a doctrine that God hates. We are all supposed to become teachers — there should be zero “lay” members in the Church, only babes — and we MUST of necessity grow past being a babe in Christ! Does that mean there aren’t supposed to be leaders? No. Does it mean there aren’t supposed to be men given different gifts for the edification of the body and “for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry” (Note: NOT “THE” ministry — Ephesians 4:12 NKJV)? No. But it does mean that men that serve are not supposed to be referred to as “Mr.” and various other titles. These gifts of God were NEVER meant to be titles and a hierarchy, as so many today seem to believe.
      On nicolaitanism, I suggest reading: http://goldensheaves.org/pages/Nicolaitan-factor-181.html