Will the “King of the South” Be an Islamic Alliance?

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According to the Bible, an apparently Islamic Empire will form in some type of confederation to include at least most of North Africa and the Middle East.

~ Dr Robert Thiel, “Egypt announces new cabinet, yet the so-called lack of ‘Islamists’ will not last for Egypt“, Church of God News

Dr Robert Thiel is wise to consider that “apparently” an Islamic empire will emerge but not definitively.  Of course, even if one does, that does not guarantee that the King of the South will be a Muslim.  In fact, he probably will not be a true Muslim, even as the King of the North will not be a true Catholic!  Have you really thought this through?

Not to pick on Thiel, either, as other groups have said similar things.  It should be noted that none I know of require it to be a “specifically extremist Islam to be the King of the South” as some liars state even after being corrected on this.  Still, we can also not deny the final “new world order” will be both a political and religious alliance!  However, that religion will not be Islam!

Think about how, for a short time, the world will be united.  The only way this is possible is for different governments and different religions to lay aside all major disagreements.  The largest hurdle, of course, is the proclaiming of one or the other to be the “right” one and the only one.  So, how “Catholic” will Europe be?  How “Islamic” will the Middle East be?  Probably not very.

Think about it another way: There are groups that argue that it is not the moderate Muslims that are of a concern.  Rather, they argue, it is the extreme element, the fanatics of the religion, that are the real problem.  To a certain extent, I would agree (perhaps shocking some of you).

Why?  Easy!  Like I was reporting about Egypt that it had a secular political past, so have many other countries in the region.  Even Saudi Arabia is ruled by a monarchy that could hardly be described as extremely Muslim.  At best, they are moderate.  At worst, they are rather secular.  That doesn’t mean that they don’t have some extreme and prejudiced views, but when I travel to many nations, there really are nominal worshippers of religions in all societies.  In fact, in some countries, I wouldn’t even call the majority so much religious as I would call them downright superstitious.

Ever consider how when reading about America’s past that many commentators of the era would speak about America’s “goodness” or even its religiosity?  Why would that be?  In many cases, it would be because the nations they hail from or have otherwise seen firsthand really weren’t all that relgious at all. Perhaps some had an outer form of religiousness about them, but America has been uniquely religious, even more so than Britain has been in its history.

That should not surprise us, though.  Many of the people that came here did so in order to escape religious persecution back home.  They came here in search of freedom!

No, not all did.  In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion some of my ancestors might have been seeking a different type of freedom — as in avoiding the law, but I cannot prove that.  Some came in search of wealth or glory.  However, even a lot of the businessmen and merchants that risked perilous journeys actually did it in the hopes of financing the spreading of the Gospel message, at least as they understood it.  So, I really don’t believe the majority were scoundrels or seeking selfish glory.  It would have been heavily tilted in favor of those wanting the freedom to worship and live as they believed according to their understanding of the Bible at that time.

So, in spite of our increasing secularism, it can still be difficult for us Americans to understand that there have always been nominal believers everywhere.  The thing about nominal believers is that they don’t have a deep and abiding faith, and they will believe whatever is dictated to them!

That’s why it is dangerous to allow our love of the truth to grow cold, as many did in the late 80s and into the 90s.  Apathy leads to opening one’s self up to manipulation.  Some are cold to this day, and Jesus had a fair warning about that as well:

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mt 24:12

Many others’ love won’t wax cold because it will already be cold.  However, even the “true believers” of whatever religion you can think of can be hunted down, persecuted, jailed, beaten and even tortured to death.  Dictators backed by religious fantacism have a tendency to do that.  Anyone who is “nominal” or apathetic will not intervene but rather try to keep their own nose clean and out of the way.

The King of the North will present himself as the Christ, the Messiah, the Mahdi (aka “final Imam”), the Maitreya, the Kalki and the Saoshyant, all rolled into one.

BTW, I thought about writing an article on this once, but did you know the Hindu Kalki rides a white horse carrying a blazing sword?  Who is that a counterfeit of?

Elements of all these religions will be attributed to the Beast, whom the False Prophet will cause the entire world, not just Europe, to worship!

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Rev 13:5-8

The pushing of the King of the South against the King of the North will likely come after the King of the North does something to show his true colors.  We cannot know what or even for sure if that is what occurs at this point in time, but it seems unlikely the King of the South would threaten whom they still perceive to be the Mahdi.  They will likely be initially fooled, and if so the Beast will have to maintain his power by force after some type of disappointment.

So, all of the alliances will likely be some type of result of an ecunemical effort, and there will be no true “Catholic” or “Islamic” alliance but some sort of hybrid that in the end has different intentions and expectations that will cause it to all fall apart.

For a while, the world will truly be a one world government dominated by a one world religion!

3 thoughts on “Will the “King of the South” Be an Islamic Alliance?

  • Alex

    That’s why it is dangerous to allow our love of the truth to grow cold, as many did in the late 80s and into the 90s. Apathy leads to opening one’s self up to manipulation. Some are cold to this day, and Jesus had a fair warning about that as well:

    John, I want to urge you and your readers to be careful with statements like “our love of THE TRUTH.” One major flaw in that is the assumption that we have received THE TRUTH … ENTIRELY … already. This simply isn’t true, because as you well know because you also believe it is wrong to eat out on the Sabbath — a massive and clear flaw in the discernment of the leadership of MOST of the COG groups today — the Church certainly has not had the ENTIRETY of the TRUTH in its history all at once.

    The question is, with such a fundamental flaw in discernment in blatantly breaking the fourth commandment with these men where they have put the traditions of men above the Law of God, what else might they be missing? What else might they not have understood correctly for DECADES?

    We have to have a LOVE for GOD’S WORD, which is the source of all TRUTH, and we must be studying it daily as commanded in Deuteronomy 17:19. In fact, we, as future kings and priests in the Kingdom should also be obeying verse 18, to literally write out our own copy of the Law (the first 5 books of the Bible, defined in Joshua 1:8).

    I hope this post wasn’t taken as jumping all over YOU — it is more meant to jump all over the idea that we ALREADY have all biblical understanding because we’ve been taught “the truth” exclusively by HWA and the men he trained. It is a false basis to build our salvation on, and an extremely dangerous one at that. I hope everyone reading this will stand up for what God has inspired to be written in His Word instead of elevating what MEN (such as HWA or any other “minister” alive today) have said to the status of scripture.

  • John D Carmack
    John D Carmack Post author

    @Alex: I agree that no man knows the entire truth. As I’ve said before, anyone who claims to know all the truth is claiming a prerogative that belongs to God, for only He knows all the truth from beginning to ending. However, the truth is for us to discover.

    However, the truth we do know and have proven to ourselves needs to be clung to. After all, it is still “the truth” even if it is not all of it.

    2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

    11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.”
    ~ Rev 2:2, 11

    Even the church at Philadelphia did not have complete knowledge according to this section, for they were told to hold onto “which thou hast”, not “all the truth”! In both the above verses, the church at that location is told to hang onto whatever they already have that is true. All except Philadelphia are given specific instructions to jettison some things that are not true, but that doesn’t mean Philadelphia had nowhere to grow in knowledge!

    However, I believe there to be biblical precedent for using the expression “the truth”.

    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”
    ~ 2Th 2:10

    Here, it is called “the truth”, as it is elsewhere. However, I particularly like this one because it points to the reality that what God values is our love of the truth. He will not expect us to know what has not been revealed to us, but if we come upon the truth and not embrace it, then we will have problems, sooner or later.

    People do tend to misuse one verse, however:

    13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”
    ~ Jn 16:13

    It says God’s Spirit will lead one into all truth, but it doesn’t say it will be overnight! It doesn’t say there will never be more to learn, and it certainly never implies that anyone anywhere except God Himself could ever have perfect knowledge.

    Those who claim to have all of the truth right now eventually show that they do not, but they always show the Scripture is true:

    8 …Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.”
    ~ 1Co 8:8b

    I’ve seen people, even lay members, who will become arrogant because of their knowledge. Arrogance crowds out love, and love (as the last verse shows) pushes out arrogance. Love requires humility. However, the arrogant don’t ask for time off work; they demand it. When a teacher asks why a student needs to leave for over a week, they rant and rave. What they need to do is calm down and heed warnings in the Scriptures.

    16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    17 A proud look…”
    ~ Pr 6:16-17a

    What happens to those who practice abominations?

    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
    ~ Rev 21:8

    • Alex

      John, I really like what you wrote, and you are right. Everything we understand must be in the context of proven scripture, and we must also be on guard against things we’ve “proven” that are a twisting of scripture (such as how many people have “proven” that eating out on the Sabbath is OK, for example).
      One final thing I would caution is the use of the term “lay member.” This term (laity) is literally part of the word NicoLAITanism, a doctrine that God hates. We are all supposed to become teachers — there should be zero “lay” members in the Church, only babes — and we MUST of necessity grow past being a babe in Christ! Does that mean there aren’t supposed to be leaders? No. Does it mean there aren’t supposed to be men given different gifts for the edification of the body and “for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry” (Note: NOT “THE” ministry — Ephesians 4:12 NKJV)? No. But it does mean that men that serve are not supposed to be referred to as “Mr.” and various other titles. These gifts of God were NEVER meant to be titles and a hierarchy, as so many today seem to believe.
      On nicolaitanism, I suggest reading: http://goldensheaves.org/pages/Nicolaitan-factor-181.html

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