9 Responses to “Hurry! Hurry! Spaces to Watch the Apocalypse Are Disappearing Fast!”

  1. Big Red Big Red says:

    Yes, the merchants will make a buck off the fears of the gullible. But does anyone think that COG groups are immune to that? Well, funny you should mention Bob Thiel. He has a couple of books to sell you. He’ll tell you how to survive the end time… for a price! Go ahead, write him a check. You’ll get to read how “there might be something to” occult prophecies!

    And, by the way. Bob Thiel does not have a doctorate in theology. That being so, why would he then paste “Dr. Robert Thiel” on the covers of his end-time books? Does anybody even question that?

    • John D says:

      Big Red wrote: “And, by the way. Bob Thiel does not have a doctorate in theology. That being so, why would he then paste “Dr. Robert Thiel” on the covers of his end-time books? Does anybody even question that?”

      Actually, quite a few do. Of course, the ones I’ve seen question it aren’t very likely to hang around here. :)

      Personally, I think he does it to enhance his credibility in the eyes of those who do not know him. Unfortunately, once they find out what his doctorate is in, that can cause people to disregard the entire COG movement.

  2. Big Red Big Red says:

    Hey, we’re on the computer at the same time!

    I just got off Thiel’s website a few moments ago. He says that, between the cost of production and distribution, he makes little if any money off the sale of his books. Okay, I believe him. And I’m more than willing to correct any errors that I make.

    But I still have a problem with selling the books. I mean, if you’re genuinely concerned about people and the end time, why would you put a price tag on your books? It just doesn’t add up. Even if you’re just barely covering your costs, why would you “sell” people “the truth.” You know what I mean?

    • John D says:

      @Big Red: I honestly had toyed with the idea of packaging up the Just War series into an ebook and sell it for 99 cents on Amazon just so I could reach a different audience. Frankly, though, I could not justify it in my own mind.

      Is it wrong to cover one’s costs, though? Probably not. However, it seems that the church would be better positioned to offer the same material and do it for free. I guess that what bothers me is that after bragging so much about how much LCG does, what need is there for his books?

      I don’t know, but I think Armstrong’s idea of taking Jesus literally, “Freely ye have received, freely give”, is still the best idea.

  3. Big Red Big Red says:

    Well, there seems to be some kind of odd relationship between Thiel and the LCG. Frankly, I don’t want to try and pull apart those strings.

    I don’t have a problem with somebody trying to recover their costs. It’s the context that I have a problem with. You’re going to sell me the place of safety for a price tag on Amazon? Really? That has red flags flying all over it.

    Bob Thiel could always put his books online – for free – and it would reach a much wider audience than trying to sell hard copies. I wouldn’t read them no matter what, because of the occult fascination, but at least it would be a little more respectable.

  4. Dr. Thiel is not the only man in the religious world to use those titles to his advantage. Consider this “doctor” who hosts a daily Christian show challenging evolution…. http://www.muldermel.com/index.html

  5. John D Carmack on Facebook says:

    Are you saying the guy’s not an MD? Because if he really is an MD, then just because he uses it is not totally the point. Thiel is not a doctor of theology. It’s in herbs, supplements, or some such thing associated with his company.

  6. I’m saying Dr. Mulder is a surgeon by trade. Not a “doctor” in sciences directly related to the evolution debate. So his title seems misleading to me.

  7. John D Carmack on Facebook says:

    @Richard: I guess I don’t see it that way. He has “MD” on his website and book. He is not hiding it, making people believe he is a theologian. In fact, I would argue that a medical doctor who has studied anatomy and species classification (they have to study zoology first) is in a great position to talk about how animals can or cannot adapt and change.