9 Responses to “Dealing With Depression and Hopelessness”

  1. maiuuislandgirl says:

    John..thank you for this post..it is much needed by myself and I’m sure others in God’s Church..We are all going through difficult times..especially all the splits that have occurred, separating families , close friends, and ministry..IMO..it’s another way, the Father and Christ are strengthening our faith and trust in Them through all the things you mentioned..to prepare us for what is coming..

    • orange65 says:

      Have read many good articles on this site, however I was so touched by this one I felt I should respond,………………….life is tough!!!, The people of God NEED each other.
      Genuine love and concern , by building each other up will certainly help , I have a very dear friend in a COG who has battled for yrs with depression. In the darkest moments its hard for that person to even process a thought let alone carry a function out, talking can be too much of an effort, but knowing that there are others who genuinly are THERE has been a tremendous blessing to them……..we can only be THERE if friendships are built and trust is gained , this takes plenty of time and effort……………..The Word of God should be the most important thing in our life, His commands are simple, carrying them out in a world that hates it and with an enemy who wants to destroy us is the hard part. When all is completed according to our Fathers plan , one thing shall still be in existance LOVE….1 Cor 13:8…we need to be in training 24/7

  2. John G says:

    John D,

    You wrote: “…This circles back to faith, then. We have to believe that God is good, God is love, God wants the best for everyone, and God will bring it to pass one day. He is so loving and so kind that He will even give us faith if we ask for it!

    Meditating on the here and now will only bring temporary relief, while meditating on what will be forever will bring forever relief…”

    I don’t believe that God will give, automatically upon just simply asking, people faith if they ask for it. If God has already foreknown, predestined, called (Romans 8:29-30) etc. individuals, then God will already provide them faith. If any of them ask for an increase in the fruit of that Spirit, faith, and it is God’s will one receive it, then it’s a done deal with God. He will provide it. He knows our needs and takes care of them, but to “the rest” of the world that is another story. I suspect many, (millions, billions?) over time, have asked for faith and not received it, but based upon a verse I’ll soon quote I believe they eventually will receive it. It all has to do with God’s will and His timing to fulfill His purpose for him/her.
    Depression and hopelessness are a couple of the many evils that exist amongst us human beings, who have all been made subject to vanity…and not by choice (Romans 8:20). If we are not experiencing one evil, we’re experiencing another and learning to come to hate evil(s) to one degree or another.

    “…Meditating on the here and now will only bring temporary relief…”, yes, and that probably pertains to all human beings.

    “…while meditating on what will be forever will bring forever relief…”

    Well, it does so for the mind. For example, we have this thought:

    “Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,” 2nd Timothy 1:9

    Done deal! Whether one is suffering from depression or hopelessness in this world currently controlled by the god of depression and hopelessness, that Wicked One, consider all that that verse is saying. God can’t lie, and the verse says that it was “…given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.”

    I believe that those Firstfruits who are sealed now by God’s Spirit have a deep appreciation for those words in that verse.

    What about “the rest?” After “the rest” come up in the Second Resurrection awake and arise, they too will come to appreciate those words also, despite any depression and hopelessness they had undergone, that they will be so grateful that God was really a God of unconditional love and really knew what He was doing and working out on this earth all along.

    Overall, we all will be witnesses of what it was like to live under Satan’s control, being made subject to vanity, evils, depressions, hopelessnesses of one kind or another. Then God will allow us to know what it will be like to NOT live under all of that satanic “baloney.” God is not a respecter of persons. All will be called, but the timing is all God’s choice and that call, amongst other things, was a done deal “…given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.”

    But, for most, for now, ……….time will tell. Something like that verse, and there are many others, gives one great comfort, so yes…meditating on what will be forever will bring forever relief…”

    Just a few more thoughts regarding ……. depresion and hopelessness…

    John

    • John D says:

      John G wrote: “I don’t believe that God will give, automatically upon just simply asking, people faith if they ask for it.”

      Technically, I would agree with you, but only because of a technicality.

      23 Then Jesus said to him, ‘”If You can”? Everything is possible to the one who believes.’
      24 Immediately the father of the boy cried out, ‘I do believe! Help my unbelief.'”
      ~ Mk 9:23-24

      What happened after this? Did Jesus tell him that faith was denied to him because he was not yet called?

      25 When Jesus saw that a crowd was rapidly coming together, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, ‘You mute and deaf spirit, I command you: come out of him and never enter him again!’”

      We have no indication that this man was called or ever was called. Yet, he asked for a specific type of faith and received it.

      It is not safe to assume what God will and will not do even for the uncalled during this lifetime.

  3. Todd Sauve Todd Sauve says:

    Depression is a very bad thing. I suffer from it a fair amount due to chronic pain and diabetes, and a number of other things from my past. Paul said that one of the reasons God allows us to fall under its influence from time to time is so that he can show us how to escape it and thereby be able to help others do so also when the the “black dog” comes to visit them. (Quoting Churchill.)

    I’ll try to remember your depression in my prayers John.

    • John D says:

      Thanks, Todd, but please realize that my friend needs more prayers than I at the moment, and also this post was prompted as a follow-up to how we should be dealing with those in pain and suffering rather than taking potshots at individuals or the organizations they belong to.

  4. Big Red Big Red says:

    I suffered a number of injuries in my work over the years, so I deal with a lot of chronic pain in joints and tendons. Depression isn’t the right word for it. It’s more like getting grouchy and tired of it, because it gets old after awhile. But I figure, skip it. I’m just going to “keep on keeping on.” This old dog isn’t going to stop.

  5. Big Red Big Red says:

    And no, my previous comment doesn’t support Malm. It’s wrong to kick somebody when they’re down. What you do is pick the person up, and limp together like a three legged race. Or like that famous painting from the Revolutionary war, with all the wounded guys marching together.